obama, and now it is at the capitol. -- it was unveiled by mrs. obama. to attend the ceremony and see rt by a blackl a woman was transforming. and that could that have happened if president obama was not an office. tavis: it has been in news and a lot lately, but in the news a lot lately, the hazing incident where the band leader was killed. the president of the university has resigned, but even what america has heard about this story. you were once on the board of trustees? tell me what is happening there and how you feel about this beloved institution? >> first of all, they graduate and% of all african-americans in the country, more than the pac- 10 and ivy league put together. secondly, i am on search committee for the new band director. this institution is powerful. it was named the no. one school in america by a "time" and " princeton review" back in 1987. it is unfortunate we had this institute, but the florida a&m band has been employing many years. we are not throwing away that institution because of this tragic incident. penn state did not stop